DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama 8B on an Apple M4 Max (128GB)
Yes — the unquantized weights fit with room for 128k tokens of context.
Verdict
Fits at FP16
96.0 GiB usable of 128 GB
Weights (Q4_K_M)
4.6 GiB
15.0 GiB at FP16 · 8B params · 6 of 6 quant rows are measured files
KV cache
128.0 KiB per token at FP16
32 layers × 8 KV heads × 128 dimensions
Speed ceiling
32 tok/s
546 GB/s ÷ bytes read per token
Every quant, against this card
Weight bytes are the size of the real published file wherever one exists — 6 of these6 rows are measured from bartowski/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B-GGUF, the rest computed from the parameter count. Max context is what the KV cache can grow to in whatever memory the weights leave behind, capped at the 128k tokens this model was trained to address.
| Precision | Bits/weight | Weights | Source | Fits | Max context | Ceiling |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FP16 / BF16 | 16.00 | 15.0 GiB | measured file | yes | 131,072 (model cap) | 32 tok/s |
| Q8_0 | 8.51 | 8.0 GiB | measured file | yes | 131,072 (model cap) | 57 tok/s |
| Q6_K | 6.57 | 6.1 GiB | measured file | yes | 131,072 (model cap) | 71 tok/s |
| Q5_K_M | 5.71 | 5.3 GiB | measured file | yes | 131,072 (model cap) | 80 tok/s |
| Q4_K_M | 4.90 | 4.6 GiB | measured file | yes | 131,072 (model cap) | 91 tok/s |
| Q3_K_M | 4.00 | 3.7 GiB | measured file | yes | 131,072 (model cap) | 107 tok/s |
What the context actually costs
The KV cache is 2 · layers · kv_heads · head_dim bytes per token per element — 2 · 32 · 8 · 128 · 2 B = 128.0 KiB. It depends on the key/value head count, not the attention-head count and not the parameter count. This model shares 8 KV heads across 32 query heads, which divides the cache by 4 against multi-head attention.
| Context | KV cache (FP16) | KV cache (8-bit) | Plus Q4_K_M weights |
|---|---|---|---|
| 4,096 | 512 MiB | 256 MiB | 5.1 GiB |
| 8,192 | 1.0 GiB | 512 MiB | 5.6 GiB |
| 32,768 | 4.0 GiB | 2.0 GiB | 8.6 GiB |
| 131,072 | 16.0 GiB | 8.0 GiB | 20.6 GiB |
The speed ceiling, and where it comes from
Generating one token reads every active weight from memory once. At FP16 / BF16 that is 15.0 GiB, plus a pass over the KV cache. An Apple M4 Max (128GB) moves 546 GB/s, so the arithmetic ceiling is 32 tok/s. Treat it as a bound, not an estimate: attention overhead, kernel launches and imperfect memory access keep real runtimes at roughly 60–80% of it, and nothing pushes past it.
Where these numbers come from
The model
- Parameters
- 8,030,261,248
- Layers
- 32
- Attention / KV heads
- 32 / 8
- Head dimension
- 128
- Trained context
- 131,072
- Checkpoint as published
- 15.0 GiB
Read from deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B. The parameter count is the Hub's own total over the tensor shapes, not a figure taken from the model's name.
The accelerator
- Memory
- 128 GB LPDDR5X unified
- Bandwidth
- 546 GB/s
- Assumed usable
- 75% → 96.0 GiB
Capacity and bandwidth from the vendor's specification. The usable fraction is an assumption, not a spec: unified memory is shared with the OS and the display, and the GPU working-set cap is raisable on Apple silicon with `sudo sysctl iogpu.wired_limit_mb`.
Questions this pairing answers
How much VRAM does DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama 8B need?
15.0 GiB for the weights at FP16 — 8B parameters at two bytes each — and 4.6 GiB at Q4_K_M. The KV cache is on top of that and is not a fixed number: this model spends 128.0 KiB per token of context, so 8,192 tokens costs a further 1.0 GiB. An Apple M4 Max (128GB) makes 96.0 GiB of its 128 GB available on the assumption below.
Can an Apple M4 Max (128GB) run DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama 8B?
Yes — the unquantized weights fit with room for 128k tokens of context. That is the weights and the KV cache together, against 96.0 GiB of usable memory.
How fast will DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama 8B run on an Apple M4 Max (128GB)?
No faster than 32 tokens/second at FP16 / BF16, and in practice below it. Decoding is memory-bound: every token reads all 15.0 GiB of weights plus the cache, and this card moves 546 GB/s. That division is the ceiling — no kernel, runtime or driver beats it, and a real runtime typically reaches 60–80% of it.
Why does the context length change how much memory DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama 8B needs?
Because the KV cache holds one key and one value vector per token, per layer, for the whole conversation, and it is allocated separately from the weights. This model has 32 layers and 8 key/value heads of 128 dimensions, shared across 32 query heads — grouped-query attention, which divides the cache by 4. That works out at 128.0 KiB per token. Parameter count tells you nothing about this number.
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Method and limits. Weight bytes are the byte size of the real published file wherever one exists, and the model's exact parameter count times the published llama.cpp bits-per-weight where it does not. That distinction is on every row above and it matters at both ends: a sub-1B model's Q4_K_M file runs a third larger than the nominal figure because k-quants keep its embedding tables at higher precision, and an already-4-bit release cannot be quantized upward at all. The KV cache is 2 · layers · kv_heads · head_dim · bytes per token, summed over layers with each sliding-window layer capped at its window. The speed figure is a roofline bound, not a benchmark: bandwidth divided by bytes read per token, which no runtime exceeds and every runtime falls short of. The usable fraction of card memory is an assumption: 75% here, which is what this lane assumes for unified memory, where the OS and window server share the same pool — the other class assumes 92%, so it is not one number applied to every device. That is the only assumed input on this page; every other figure is computed from the model config and the card's published specification. Nothing on this page is written by a language model. Architecture from the model's published config, fetched 2026-08-07.